Nov 2019 Points System Change – Chance of 189 Invite

Chance of 189 PR reduces by 42% with less number of invites available starting July 2019. Software Engineer 2613 and 2631 category need 75 points to get PR now.

Written by Anil Gupta
  By Anil Gupta          Updated  3 Mar, 20 #australia pr

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Nov 2019 Immigration Points System Changes

Spouse age should be less than 45.

SpousePoints
Single (Un-married)10
Spouse is Australian Citizen or PR holder10
Spouse has Positive Skill Assessment and competent English10
Spouse has no Skill Assessment but competent English5
Other Cases0

EOI Ranking Order

A new ranking order will be implemented starting Nov 2019 if multiple EOIs have same number of points.

  1. Married with a skilled spouse (Spouse 10 points category).
  2. Single or un-married (Spouse 10 points category).
  3. EOI with spouse’s competent English but no skills for skilled partner points (age and skills – Spouse 5 points category).
  4. Primary applicants with a partner who is ineligible for either competent English or Skilled partner points. These applicants will be ranked lowest.

As per immigration consultants Iscah, 66% of PR applications have a spouse and 34% are single applicants.

This means that about one third of EOIs will gain 10 points immediately and leave the family applicants behind unless you have a working spouse.

Chance of Invite after Nov 2019 Spouse Points New System

You will find it difficult to get an invitation if you cannot claim spouse points after November 2019 as married people with working spouse will automatically get 5 extra points as compared to today.

Single applicants will gain the most by jumping ahead in queue with 10 points immediately and will have much better chance of invite than today.

If your Spouse has functional English today, I recommend to to improve the score and try to get at-least to competent level to fetch 5 points.

Will I gain spouse points in Nov 2019?

5 Points: You will gain 5 spouse points if your spouse has competent English score (IELTS 6, 6, 6, 6 or PTE 50 in each).

10 Points: If your spouse has ANZSCO code in same occupation list as you and has positive assessment along with competent English score, you will get 10 points.

10 Points: If you are single and ready to mingle.

10 Points: If you marry an Australian Citizen or Permanent Resident.

0 Points: If your spouse does not fall in any of above cases.

489 Visa being Replaced by 491 Visa

489 Visa category will be completely stopped on Nov 16, 2019 and will be replaced by new visa called 491.

If you do not get an an invite in 489 by November, your 489 EOI will be useless.

189 PR Invite quota reduced by 42%

Number of invites available under subclass 189 visa has been reduced from existing 43,990 to 18,652 which account for about 42% reduction in their yearly Australian PR migration numbers for FY 2019 – 2020.

 

Effect of 189 Invite Reduction on Software Category

If we reduce the number of 189 invites available in year 2018-2019 for ANZSCO codes in category 2613 and 2631, we reach at these new figures for year 2019-2020:

189 number of invites available20192020
2613 – Software and Applications Programmers7,2713,053
2631 – Computer Network Professionals2,167910
2611 – ICT Business and Systems Analysts1,466850

The new quota will be available staring July 2019 Australia PR draw.

Effect of New 189 PR limits on existing EOI applications

The current pending or Australia EOI applications that are waiting for an invite will be affected if you can’t get an invite before July 2019 in the remaining draws.

The new number for 189 PR also includes the New Zealand citizen 189 quota as well.

Example:

#1 Software Engineer – 2613

As per current trends, 2613 EOI with 70 points filed have very low chances of invite.

Increase your points to 75 to have any realistic chance of invite in season 2020.

#2 ICT Business and Systems Analysts – 2611, 2631

Similarly, for ANZSCO codes in 2611 – ICT Business and Systems Analysts and 2631 – Computer Network Professionals, the minimum points required to get an invite have increased to 80 starting July this year. The chance of invite with 70 or lower points have diminished even with a waiting period.

Did you know that you can keep your current employment date BLANK while filing Australia EOI and let the work experience increase automatically to help get more points?

 

190 and 489 Invites are not affected

The reduction in 189 quota numbers does not affect the 190 state sponsored and 489 sponsored invitation numbers. You can still receive state invite if you have good points (normally the highest in your job code) and your job is in demand in the state.

Source: Australia Migration 




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  68 Useful Questions & Answers

  1. Callum Evenden
    Callum Evenden 6 Jan, 20 at 1:22 pm

    I have been trying to get PR for 10 years. Every year the rules change, every year it becomes more difficult. No agents are informed properly. I have submitted a 190 and a 189 eoi after hearing my current bridging visa could now be for 35 years!!! but am not hopeful after all i have tried several visas now over the last 10 years. And now again the rules are changing. Time to just go home. Clearly not wanted here.


  2. Sabala Rupakheti
    Sabala Rupakheti 23 Dec, 19 at 2:24 pm

    Hi
    I have lodged my EOI with 75 points with the occupation “FOOD TECHNOlOGIST” on November 2019. Is there any chance to get invitation for 189?


  3. Mish
    Mish 26 Nov, 19 at 2:52 am

    Hi Anil, my points claimed is 85 pts and the date of effect is 15/11/2019. My occupation is non pro rata. Do you think there will be a chance for me to be invited for visa 189? Thank you


  4. Raj Sharma
    Raj Sharma 17 Nov, 19 at 12:06 am

    Hi, anil
    I have lodge eoi on 75 last month for business analyst. What are the chances getting the invitation considering 10 point for being single will make it 85 ?


  5. Mons
    Mons 1 Nov, 19 at 10:45 am

    Hi Anil,
    I have submitted EOI for job code 263111 with 80 points in 189 on 26th October, 2019. And 85 points in 190 for Vic. Also, this will change to 85 and 90 respectively after 16th November rule where my spouse will get additional 5 points. When I can expect invite.


    • Mons
      Mons 6 Nov, 19 at 1:46 pm

      Also, after the invitation how Long does it take to get the visa? Does it also depend on points or it is standard for all ?


  6. Sahil
    Sahil 1 Nov, 19 at 10:45 am

    Hi Anil,
    I have 70 points and filed for 2613 in May 2019. Post November, it will jump to 80 points. Is there any realistic chance of 189?
    Many thanks.


  7. Hephzi
    Hephzi 24 Oct, 19 at 12:06 am

    Hi Sir,
    Thanks for all the up to date information. I have a score of 65 for 189 and 70 for 190. Applied for EOI on the 1st of August. What would be my chances of invite for ANZCO 2613.
    Thanks in advance


  8. Jo
    Jo 4 Aug, 19 at 8:39 am

    Hi Anil,

    Thanks for your post.
    I had 75 points for 189 and 80 points for 190 (Victoria) on my initial EOI date 12/03/2019 for 234511. After scoring 8 in IELTS I updated my EOI on 02/08/2019. Now my points for 189 is 85 and for 190 is 90. I’m currently studying full time in Melbourne and look forward to applying on-shore. What are my possibilities and when can I expect for getting invited?

    Thanks,
    Jo


  9. Grace
    Grace 3 Aug, 19 at 3:43 pm

    Hi there. For 254423 with 75 points, is there any chance of invite at all? EOI lodge 1/8/2019.


  10. Camila
    Camila 2 Aug, 19 at 2:09 am

    Hi Anil,
    I have now 75 points for 189, but should get 80 after Nov 19 because of my spouse. Would I have chance to get an invitation for 234513 or 234511 after November?
    Does it make difference if I apply offshore?
    Thanks in advance


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 2 Aug, 19 at 12:34 pm

      You have good chance of invite by November also with 75 points.


  11. Sunitha Yadav
    Sunitha Yadav 1 Aug, 19 at 11:55 pm

    Hi anil
    Do we need AcS assessment along with pte score for spouse points starting from nov-19 or only pte score is enough?
    Thanks
    Sunitha


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 2 Aug, 19 at 12:34 pm

      Please carefully read the table i have given above. It explains everything.


  12. Varun
    Varun 1 Aug, 19 at 2:07 pm

    Hi Anil,

    I have submitted EOI with 80 points in 189 on 26th July. And 85 points in 190 for Vic. When I can expect invite. Can I submit EOI for any other state. No experience within Australia.


    • Varun
      Varun 1 Aug, 19 at 2:08 pm

      For 261112


      • Anil Gupta
        Anil Gupta 1 Aug, 19 at 9:37 pm

        You have good chance of invitation in either August or September 2019 draw.

        I don’t think any other state has any chance for you.


  13. A. R.
    A. R. 1 Aug, 19 at 9:04 am

    Hi dear Anil,
    First allow me to thank you for your quite informative website, as well as the expert guidance you kindly offer. I have lodged my EOI during the first week of April for 189 as a Software Engineer with 75 pts. I did the same for 190 (with 80 pts) during July. Which one, you may presume, will realistically be converted into an invitation sooner? Do you honestly think that 75-point holders will be with in any reasonable chance of receiving an invitation after November too, when cut-off points may jump higher? Thank you in advance and again for your up-to-date website.


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 1 Aug, 19 at 9:16 am

      The chances of invite for 75 point EOI in 2613 category will reduce drastically after November as per my estimates. Rest will depend on how many invites are sent.

      You have good chance of invite in 190 by November though with 75 points.


      • sakshi gupta
        sakshi gupta 2 Aug, 19 at 7:30 am

        Hi anil,
        Thanks for the update. I just wanted know..if a person have 75 pts right now in 189 visa 2613 category after November will be gaining 10 more pts if single the it will lead to 85pts even then there is less chance?? I guess the chances will become little better.


        • Anil Gupta
          Anil Gupta 2 Aug, 19 at 12:34 pm

          Did you read the above article? Your question has already been answered.


  14. Priyanka Arlagadda
    Priyanka Arlagadda 31 Jul, 19 at 10:33 pm

    Hi Anil
    I have lodged my eoi on 31st July for ICT Security Specialist with 75 points. When can I expect my invitation?

    Thanks
    Priyanka


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 1 Aug, 19 at 7:22 am

      You may get an invite by November 2019.


  15. Vishal Verma
    Vishal Verma 31 Jul, 19 at 10:33 pm

    Hi Anil,

    I have submitted the EOI (ICT Business Analyst 261111 for subclass 190 for Queensland (on 30th July ’19) and Victoria (on 29th July ’19) with 85 points and subclass 189 with 80 points. What are the chances that I would get the invite ?

    Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Thank You!


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 1 Aug, 19 at 7:22 am

      You have good chance of invitation in either August or September 2019 draw.


  16. Zaheer Mohammed
    Zaheer Mohammed 31 Jul, 19 at 10:07 pm

    Hi Anil,

    I have applied for subclass 189 towards the end of Mar 19 with 75 points, for 263311 (Telecom Engg). My wife has competent English score in IELTS. I have the following two questions –

    1. I had a baby born in Jul 19, if I edit my application with additional dependant details, do I start all over again in the queue?

    2. When can I expect to recieve an invite against my application considering the new quotas?

    Thx, Zaheer


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 1 Aug, 19 at 7:22 am

      You can expect an invite by Oct 2019.

      The EOI date of effect should change only if your points change. You should add details of your new born baby.


  17. Rima K
    Rima K 31 Jul, 19 at 12:28 am

    Hi Anil,
    I have lodged EOI on 25th May at 75 points for 261313 for subclass 189. When can I expect invite?


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 31 Jul, 19 at 11:03 am

      You may get an invite by Dec 2019.


  18. pd431
    pd431 31 Jul, 19 at 12:05 am

    Hi,
    I am applying with my spouse and we both are applying for 2611 (Business and System Analyst). Current score is 70. Going to submit EoI in couple of days. What are the chances of getting an invite for 189 visa? Also as new rules are going to be effective from 16th November 2019. What will be the effect on existing applications?


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 31 Jul, 19 at 11:03 am

      There is no chance of invite with 70 points at this time. I have given the affect of new system in above article. Please read and help yourself.


  19. Komal Ashwin Jani
    Komal Ashwin Jani 30 Jul, 19 at 7:47 pm

    Hi Anil,

    I have 75 pts and genereated EOI on 24th April 2019 with occupation 2621112: ICT Security Specialist. When whould I expect my invitation?

    Thank you in advance

    Regards,
    Komal


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 31 Jul, 19 at 11:03 am

      You may get an invite by Nov 2019.


  20. TRAN MANH VU
    TRAN MANH VU 30 Jul, 19 at 9:29 am

    Hi Anil. I will have 75 pts in mid of September and will have 80 pts as my spouse will have extra 5 pts in November. Do I have any chance to receive an invitation for visa 189 with the University Lecturer 242111? Thanks.


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 30 Jul, 19 at 2:45 pm

      You have good chance of invite.


      • TRAN MANH VU
        TRAN MANH VU 30 Jul, 19 at 7:03 pm

        Can you estimate which round?


        • Anil Gupta
          Anil Gupta 31 Jul, 19 at 11:03 am

          First, let your points reach 75 in September. The invite estimates change with each draw.


  21. Sadaf
    Sadaf 29 Jul, 19 at 10:02 am

    Hi dear Anil. I will be 75 point for visa189 by end of September 2019. For software engineering(2613) when I will have chance of invitation? Thx so much


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 29 Jul, 19 at 5:12 pm

      I think you will have chance of invitation with 75 point for 2613 by May 2020 if you get 75 points in September 2919.


  22. Sadaf
    Sadaf 29 Jul, 19 at 10:02 am

    Hi dear Anil. I will be 75 point for visa189 by end of September 2019. For software engineering when I will have chance of invitation? Thx


  23. Gunjan Sachdeva
    Gunjan Sachdeva 29 Jul, 19 at 9:09 am

    With the reduction what are the realistic chances of getting the invite in 262112 ICT Security Specialist with 75 points in 189. EOI submitted on 26th July 2019. What are the chances of the invite with Victoria Nomination with 80 points


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 29 Jul, 19 at 5:12 pm

      You can expect an invite for 262112 with 75 points by Jan 2020.


  24. Adarsh
    Adarsh 29 Jul, 19 at 3:09 am

    Hi Anil, My date of effect is 16/10/2018, I am at 75 points for 261111, When can i Expect my visa. Do i have any chance at 75 points


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 29 Jul, 19 at 5:12 pm

      Chances are low for an invite for 261111 with 75 points at this time.

      I suggest to increase points to at-least 80 to have realistic chance.


  25. vinod
    vinod 26 Jul, 19 at 11:26 pm

    Hi anil…my date of effect is 20july 2019 i have 75 points in 189 for 261312 stream…when can i expect my
    invitation??Can I expect before November.


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 27 Jul, 19 at 2:44 pm

      Chances are low for an invite before Nov 2019 with 75 points for 261312.


      • vinod
        vinod 28 Jul, 19 at 12:45 am

        Thank you anil


        • vinod
          vinod 30 Jul, 19 at 11:57 pm

          Hi Anil, what are the changes for 189 visa after November 16


        • vinod
          vinod 31 Jul, 19 at 8:45 pm

          Hi Anil, what are the changes for 189 visa after November 16.


          • Anil Gupta
            Anil Gupta 31 Jul, 19 at 9:14 pm

            Please read the article above. It lists all the changes.


      • vinod
        vinod 28 Jul, 19 at 12:45 am

        what are the chances of invitation for 190 Visa??with 80 points for 261312


        • Anil Gupta
          Anil Gupta 28 Jul, 19 at 9:15 am

          Depends on which state you are talking about.
          NSW has added the criteria that only people staying in NSW will be invited for 261312. So, i think only Victoria is left and you have good chance of invite there.


          • Vinod
            Vinod 30 Jul, 19 at 10:07 pm

            Hi Anil, what are chances for 189 visa after November 16.


          • vinod
            vinod 31 Jul, 19 at 8:45 pm

            HI Anil, what are the changes for 189 visa after November 16.


  26. sakshi gupta
    sakshi gupta 24 Jul, 19 at 8:26 am

    Hi anil…my date of effect is 27th April 2019 i have 75 points in 189 cat and 80 points in 190 cat for 2613 stream…when can i expect my invitation??


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 24 Jul, 19 at 7:43 pm

      Expect an invite by Oct 2019 draw.


      • sakshi gupta
        sakshi gupta 25 Jul, 19 at 3:28 am

        Thanks for the quick reply. I just wanted to ask you any chances before that?? N what are the chances of invitation for 190 Visa??

        Regards
        Sakshi


  27. Soumya Mukherjee
    Soumya Mukherjee 24 Jul, 19 at 6:01 am

    Hi Anil,

    I have submitted my EOI on 13th March 2019 under the job code 261312. My points claim was 75. Could you please let me know by when I can expect the invitation.

    Thanks
    Soumya Mukherjee


    • Anil Gupta
      Anil Gupta 24 Jul, 19 at 7:08 am

      You may get an invite by September 2019 with 75 points for 261312.


      • Soumya Mukherjee
        Soumya Mukherjee 24 Jul, 19 at 7:54 am

        Thanks Anil for the prompt reply. After I submit my PR application how long does it take to get the grant letter. Also within what time frame after getting the grant I need to travel to AUS?? Does it depend on the date of grant or on the date on which the medical was done?


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